Thursday, November 13, 2008

Sword of Troll slaying +100


5 way to stop Trolls killing the internet

I think this article on cracked (normally a humor site) has some very good points.

I personally would love a sort of personalized internet avatar that you can setup. Say a nominal charge of $20 a year that you can link your information too. That would work on every site, allow you to access everything without having to input every time all that stupid questions and information. Sort of like "pay pall" but for... everything.

You want to comment on You tube. You click the comment button, it checks your ID to see if you haven't been flagged as a total Asshat on forum posts, then you can post. You get flagged you can contest it, ask for a review, or pay the $10 reactivate fee.

You want to buy a car on E-bay, it checks your ID, and if you haven't got flagged as a fraud, you then can bid. If your flagged you can still bid but your bids goes to the front of the "possible fraud" section, You get flagged, then contest it, ask for a review, or pay the fine.

You want to access your bank accounts, click and using the $10 dongle on your key chain submit your finger print ID. wallah access to all your financial info.

All this you can do now. But each site, each thing you want to do is a separate account, a separate ID and password prompt, and has NO repercussions on your personage. You get booted form "screaming goth chicks" cause you flamed the board. You can just re apply add a "2" to the end of your name and continue flaming. Now your banned... and banned from EVERY SITE. Hurts donut?

Probably not a "click" your screwed button. More like rating on you tube, drop below -100 on your account and your rights are revoked, or return at the rate of 10 points a week (or you pay to get it back up). say something that pisses one person off -1. put something up that pisses off 100 people and -100. Tick off a Admin, or get noticed by a Admin. Bamm -100 right there.

Be a total ASS in a game (example WoW) get a -4 from the rest of your party. Be a Ass in general chat -1 temporary points that fade off in 1/2 a hour. -100 leads to a suspension of access till your points drop off. keep it up your banned. Now your banned not just from WoW. But from EVERY online game that requires a account. BE NICE!

1 unified account, 1 unified person. real consequences.

You want to access a Malaysian underage whore house online... enter your ID. What? Your state/province/country doesn't allow that? Well my friend I hope you can explain that to the investigators.

You been ushering death threats to some person, lets check your ID. Oh your information is secure and can't be divulged? While sorry but your ID from your comments been flagged by the victim, and since you failed your review request cause the provider agreed that saying "i'll fucking kill you, and fuck the eye hole" was a bit illegal. The police now have legal authorization to access your ID info.

Of course hacking and the trafficking of Illegal or pirated ID's becomes a problem. Identity theft is a major issue. But then.. it is now already. But really the government is falling father and farther behind fighting this stuff. they respond rather than innovate. We can't wait for this stuff to come from them. The internet companies, the providers, and the programmers have to get off their asses and do this. cause they are the front line. They make the communities that are the "interwebs" They need to become the police that are not there now.

(Heck policing the accounts could become a whole new job force of police officers. New jobs always good.)

Piracy would be limited to sites that do not conform and use the old ID access system or no ID access system at all. Basically a "look were not legit" flag waving in the air.

The web would polarize into registered and unregistered. What side would you be on? Would you dance back and fourth across the DMZ?

The web is becoming the place the world meets. Moderation and consequence is coming. What form? who knows?

"But with the formal ID then freedom of speech that made the internet so popular would vanish"... Really? I'm pretty sure it was E-mail, Napster, IRC, Myspace, Youtube, facebook that made the internet popular with the masses, with only 1 of those being semi illegal (till they finished the court battle). And the last4 are absolutely full of retards vomiting their illness on the screen in front of you. IRC, Myspace, youtube, face book all have ignore functions. Functions that they shouldn't have had to put in if people were civil and polite. Manners that vanish in the flicer of a eye, when concequence is taken away.

LOL, fag, first, and any other "troll" sentencence, make me want to beat to death anyone that says "freedom of speech" when referencing the internet. The "freedom" they speak of is for the most part just a license to spout whatever enters your mind that would get all the teeth in your mouth punched out, in real life.

I swear the internet is like Tourettes syndrome for the masses.

Sorry bit a rant there


Tyler said...

take a deep breath, cause you probably ran outta air in there somewhere.

Mike said...

The most obvious freedom of speech violations who will be on those no longer be able to spam "lol u suck lrn 2 play n00b" on the comments sections. But just because what they say is annoying does not mean they should not be allowed to say it. While I agree the consequences for trolling are presently insufficient, I dread the thought of a Brave New Internet where access to one account renders all of your life bare and exposed. And no amount of security will keep that information secret. The more unhackable something is declared the more likely a Swede is to crack it. No one was supposed to get into Blu-Rays until 2012. Identity theft is a problem now to which the solution sure as fuck is not giving the thieves only one lock to pick to get to the goods.

E-Bay already has a fraud warning system, and I do not see a need to link it to how vitriolic my comments on YouTube and my Facebook friends. The real world does not ban you from the Recreation Centre because you got drunk and said some annoying shit at the bar. They are as seperate as work and home. My co-workers know as much about my personal life as I care to tell them, and fuck you I would like to keep it that way.

The solution to trolls is a good corps of moderators, and a collective thickening of the skin of internet users. There's no fucking gun to anyone's saying they must read the comments. Having been a moderator I am aware there were plenty of tools 5 years ago to keep a troll away from your site. I am sure they have developed more since and just need to start using them.

You have not spent enough time in Facebook if you are lumping it in with the comments on YouTube videos, since there is no anonymity there. Here's a suggestion: YouTube is about videos. Go there and watch those and ignore the fucking comments. It is not hard, just do not scroll down. Just don't. Is that so fucking hard?

I want those ignore functions because I want the decision who I speak to be in my hands. Not some "benevolent" overpower or the limp-dicked yokels that can not ignore the stupidity that results from anonymity combined with a public forum.

I like the internet the way it is. If it all just became one bigs iTunes the world woult be sterilized and one step closer to being 1984. The desire to have someone else step up and do people's content filtering for them is the kind of weak-willed bullshit that infuriates me, not the l33t-speaking morons that I can just move my eyes away from and rob them of their power over me.

Matt said...

Oh I agree, I tend to skip the comments, or just gloss over them and ignore whatever looks stupid. heck sometimes I read them just to get a kick over how stupid some people are, or how abusive they get with no repercussions.

I would dread the idea of a " Brave new internet" (I like the term ha!). But I do think that there needs to be some sort of consequence to your actions in some way.

I was being a bit over the top in most of that well expressing it.

And no I don't spend a lot of time in facebook or such. Still a bit of my first post in me.

As for the last point I agree. I don't want a "overpower" to censor me or content. My Idea was a community based system of policing, offered by a public company

I was suggesting a way to have the ability to call upon a outlet; I can use when the need arises, to protect or prevent (by threat of real world consequence for your actions)

I wouldn't want to be censored. I just want the ability to respond to being called a "nazi fucktard" in a way other than ignore.

Basically just another option.

As for Hacking. I didn't say it would be fool proof, ha!

Oh a point I almost forgot. I didn't want it to be a government thing as then they would "force" you by law to register. I wanted it to be a company thing so it would be a "service" that you had to agree to certain rules to use.

Don't want to use the service not a problem, then use the "free-net", but at your own risk, like it is now.

Oh as to the comments in the bar affecting the rest of your life. some of the things spouted in chat, or comments I have seen would impact your life. jail, broken leg, massive shiner, being hurled through the air like a Frisbee by a bouncer.

Also to continue the analogy. No you'd not be banned from your rec center. You'd be banned from bars, (cause you can't obviously contain yourself there.)

Sexually harass a jogger at the rec center and you'd not be allowed back into rec centers.

Sort of a relation to your actions. Be a dick, loose that privilege. when you learn to control yourself come back.

"looks like someone needs a time out"